Marmot Tungsten 3 Tent Reviews, Is it Worth it?

Marmot Tungsten 3 Tent Reviews, Is it Worth it?
September 1, 2026

If you're shopping for a 3-person backpacking tent that prioritizes space, comfort, and practical weather protection, the Marmot Tungsten 3 is an interesting alternative to today's increasingly lightweight shelters.

It isn't the lightest three-person tent on the market. In fact, weight is probably the first thing ultralight backpackers will criticize.

But that's not really what the Tungsten 3 is trying to accomplish.

The design philosophy is much closer to "carry a little more, live a lot better."

With a spacious interior, generous headroom, multiple doors, dual vestibules, a freestanding structure, aluminum poles, and a full-coverage rainfly, the Tungsten 3 is designed for people who expect to spend meaningful time at camp—not simply crawl inside at night and leave at sunrise.

After years of backpacking and camping in everything from minimalist shelters to large family tents, I think the Tungsten 3 makes a particularly strong case for three people who value personal space, two people who want luxury-level backpacking room, or campers who use a tent as a small basecamp.

The trade-off is straightforward:

You carry more weight in exchange for more usable space.

So, is the Marmot Tungsten 3 worth it?

For the right type of camper, absolutely.

For a serious ultralight backpacker, probably not.


Marmot Tungsten 3: Quick Verdict

Overall rating: 8.5/10

The Marmot Tungsten 3 is a spacious, practical three-season tent that excels at livability, organization, and ease of use.

What we like

  • Spacious three-person interior

  • Excellent choice for two people who want extra room

  • Tall peak height and relatively open interior geometry

  • Two doors for easier access

  • Two vestibules for gear storage

  • Freestanding design

  • Aluminum pole structure

  • Full-coverage rainfly

  • Seam-taped construction

  • Good ventilation potential

  • Straightforward setup

  • Useful for backpacking, basecamp trips, and car-to-backcountry adventures

  • More forgiving than many extremely lightweight shelters

What we don't like

  • Heavy compared with modern ultralight 3P tents

  • Relatively bulky packed size

  • More tent than most solo or minimalist backpackers need

  • Not designed for serious winter mountaineering

  • Three adults will have significantly less personal space than two

Bottom line: The Tungsten 3 isn't a gram-counting tent. It's a livability-first backpacking tent that makes the most sense when comfort at camp is part of the adventure.


Exact specifications can vary somewhat by model generation and regional version, so always check the label or manufacturer's specifications for the specific Tungsten 3 you're buying.

The standard Tungsten 3 platform is generally characterized by:

Feature Marmot Tungsten 3
Capacity 3 people
Season 3-season
Structure Freestanding
Doors 2
Vestibules 2
Poles 2 main pole structure
Pole material Aluminum
Rainfly Full coverage
Floor Waterproof polyester construction
Interior Roomy 3-person design
Footprint Often included depending on version/package
Primary use Backpacking / camping

The most important point isn't a single specification.

It's the relationship between interior volume and packed weight.

The Tungsten 3 deliberately gives up some weight efficiency to create a more comfortable shelter.


The Tungsten 3 occupies an interesting position between a traditional camping tent and an ultralight backpacking shelter.

It's particularly well suited to:

  • Weekend backpacking

  • Multi-day backcountry trips

  • Couples who want extra room

  • Two adults plus a child

  • Three adults sharing a shelter

  • Basecamp-style adventures

  • Shoulder-season three-season camping

  • Car-to-backcountry trips

  • Campers who spend significant time inside their tent

It is less suited to:

  • Fast-and-light missions

  • High-mileage thru-hiking

  • Ultralight gear systems

  • Alpine climbing

  • Severe winter camping

That's an important distinction.

The Tungsten 3 isn't trying to win the weight competition.

It is trying to make the hours you spend at camp more comfortable.


This is the tent's biggest selling point.

A three-person tent gives designers enough physical space to create a more useful living environment, and Marmot takes advantage of that volume.

For three adults, the tent provides considerably more usable space than a cramped two-person shelter.

For two adults, however, the difference can be dramatic.

Instead of thinking:

"We have enough space to sleep."

You're closer to:

"We have enough space to actually live."

That's an important distinction on longer trips.


Three People or Two?

This is one of the first decisions you should make.

Three adults

The Tungsten 3 can accommodate three people, but you should expect the normal limitations of a three-person backpacking tent.

Three sleeping pads occupy most of the floor.

Personal gear needs to stay organized.

The vestibules become essential.

Privacy is limited.

Two adults

This is where the Tungsten 3 becomes particularly attractive.

Two adults can use the third person's floor area for:

  • Clothing

  • Small backpacks

  • Electronics

  • Cooking preparation

  • Wet-weather organization

  • Extra sleeping gear

  • Dog equipment

  • Children’s gear

In other words:

A 3P tent can become an exceptionally comfortable 2P shelter.

This is one reason experienced campers sometimes intentionally buy one size larger than the minimum capacity.


A tent's peak height doesn't sound exciting until you've spent an entire rainy afternoon inside one.

Then it becomes extremely important.

The Tungsten 3's relatively tall profile allows campers to sit upright more comfortably than in many low-profile ultralight tents.

That matters when you're:

  • Changing clothes

  • Organizing a backpack

  • Eating

  • Playing cards

  • Waiting out rain

  • Treating a blister

  • Checking a map

  • Getting children settled

  • Reading before bed

Here's a useful tent-shopping principle:

Don't measure a tent only by floor area.

Consider the volume above the floor.

A tent with identical floor dimensions can feel much larger if it has:

  • Steeper walls

  • Better pole geometry

  • More headroom

  • Wider upper sections

  • Better door placement

The Tungsten design is strong in this area.


One reason the Tungsten series feels relatively spacious is its pole geometry.

Instead of allowing the tent walls to simply slope inward from the floor, the structure creates additional usable volume higher up.

This is sometimes overlooked when shoppers compare tents using only square footage.

Imagine two shelters with the same floor area.

One has aggressively sloping walls.

The other maintains more vertical sidewalls.

The second tent can feel substantially larger even though the floor dimensions are identical.

That's the principle behind livable tent geometry.

The goal isn't necessarily to make the floor bigger.

It's to make more of the existing volume usable.


For a 3-person shelter, two doors are almost essential for comfortable use.

Imagine three people sleeping together.

Someone needs to leave at 5:30 a.m.

Another person is still asleep.

A single door means climbing over sleeping bags and bodies.

Two doors largely eliminate that problem.

They also improve:

  • Ventilation

  • Personal access

  • Gear organization

  • Emergency exit options

  • Privacy

  • Convenience during nighttime bathroom trips

For two people, two doors are even better.

Each person gets an independent entrance.

That's one of those features you don't appreciate until you've used a tent without it.


The vestibules are not just "extra storage."

They create a useful transition zone between dirty outdoor life and clean sleeping space.

You can place:

  • Hiking shoes

  • Backpacks

  • Trekking poles

  • Rain jackets

  • Wet clothing

  • Muddy equipment

outside the sleeping compartment.

For three people, this becomes particularly important.

Without vestibule space, three campers can quickly turn a tent into a pile of wet jackets, shoes, backpacks, and food bags.

Good vestibule design allows you to establish gear zones.


The freestanding architecture is one of the tent's most beginner-friendly characteristics.

The basic setup follows a familiar process:

  1. Select a suitable campsite.

  2. Remove sharp rocks, sticks, and debris.

  3. Lay out the tent body.

  4. Assemble the aluminum poles.

  5. Attach the poles to the corners.

  6. Connect the tent body to the poles.

  7. Position the rainfly.

  8. Secure the rainfly.

  9. Stake the corners.

  10. Adjust tension and guylines.

Once you've practiced a few times, setup should become routine.

My advice after years of camping:

Practice before your trip.

Set it up at home.

Take it down.

Do it again.

Then try packing it into the storage bag.

If rain is arriving after sunset, knowing exactly how your shelter works is worth far more than having a slightly more advanced tent.


For normal three-season backpacking, the Tungsten 3 provides a sensible weather-protection system.

The full rainfly protects the inner tent from precipitation while the waterproof floor provides separation from wet ground.

But here's the important part:

Tent waterproofing isn't just about fabric.

A tent's real-world performance depends on:

  • Pitch quality

  • Seam construction

  • Rainfly coverage

  • Ground selection

  • Drainage

  • Wind direction

  • Fabric condition

  • Ventilation

Even an expensive expedition shelter can become wet if pitched in the wrong place.


When choosing a campsite, don't just look for flat ground.

Look at the surrounding terrain.

Ask yourself:

"Where would water go if it rained heavily tonight?"

Avoid:

  • Dry creek beds

  • Depressions

  • Drainage channels

  • Low spots

  • Areas immediately below slopes

  • Soft ground that already feels saturated

Look for:

  • Slightly elevated ground

  • Natural drainage

  • Firm soil

  • Stable surfaces

  • Some protection from runoff

A few minutes of observation can prevent hours of misery.


The Tungsten 3 is a spacious three-season tent.

That means it has more exposed surface area than an extremely low-profile shelter.

The trade-off is simple:

More interior volume generally means more wind-catching surface.

This doesn't make the Tungsten 3 a poor tent in wind.

It means you should use good campsite selection and proper tensioning.

In windy weather:

  • Orient the tent thoughtfully.

  • Stake every appropriate corner.

  • Deploy guylines.

  • Keep the rainfly tensioned.

  • Avoid exposed ridgelines when possible.

  • Use natural windbreaks where appropriate.

  • Stay away from dead trees and unstable branches.

A critical backcountry principle

Don't ask:

"Can my tent withstand extreme wind?"

Ask:

"Why am I pitching my tent somewhere that exposes it to extreme wind if I have another safe option?"

Good outdoor skills reduce the load placed on your equipment.


The larger the tent, the more interior volume you have—but that doesn't automatically eliminate condensation.

Three people sleeping inside a tent can produce a considerable amount of moisture overnight.

Every breath releases water vapor.

When warm, humid air contacts a cold tent surface, condensation can form.

This is why ventilation is so important.

How to Reduce Condensation

Use these techniques:

  1. Open vents whenever weather conditions allow.

  2. Use both doors to encourage cross ventilation.

  3. Keep wet clothing out of the sleeping compartment.

  4. Avoid pitching directly beside water.

  5. Look for natural airflow.

  6. Keep the rainfly properly tensioned.

  7. Don't unnecessarily seal every ventilation opening.

Remember:

Condensation is not the same thing as a leaking tent.

If moisture appears on the inside of the rainfly, investigate airflow and environmental conditions before assuming the waterproofing has failed.


The Tungsten 3 can be quite comfortable during warm-weather camping when used correctly.

The biggest advantage is its ability to open multiple ventilation points.

On dry, warm nights, maximizing airflow can make a major difference.

Warm-weather setup

Try to:

  • Open both doors where practical.

  • Use available vents.

  • Position the tent where natural airflow exists.

  • Avoid depressions where warm, humid air can settle.

  • Keep sleeping bags and clothing from blocking ventilation.

The goal is to create a continuous path for air to enter and leave the shelter.

Cross ventilation is one of the simplest ways to improve sleeping comfort.


For three-season cold-weather camping, it can be a practical shelter.

But it is important to define "cold weather."

There is a big difference between:

A 35°F autumn night

and

A winter storm above treeline.

The Tungsten 3 is designed for three-season conditions rather than severe winter mountaineering.

It's appropriate for many:

  • Spring trips

  • Summer mountain camping

  • Fall backpacking adventures

  • Cool shoulder-season nights

It isn't the right tool for:

  • Heavy snow loading

  • Technical alpine climbing

  • Extreme winter storms

  • Expedition conditions


This is one of the most important pieces of camping knowledge for beginners.

Your shelter protects you from the environment.

Your sleeping system provides most of your insulation.

Think about the system as:

Tent → blocks wind and precipitation

Sleeping bag/quilt → traps warm air

Sleeping pad → reduces heat loss into the ground

The sleeping pad is particularly important.

A sleeping bag can be extremely warm, but if your sleeping pad provides inadequate insulation, cold ground can still pull heat away from your body.


Now we reach the main criticism.

The Tungsten 3 is heavy by modern backpacking standards.

Depending on the specific generation, the tent system approaches or exceeds five pounds, making it significantly heavier than many current lightweight 3P shelters.

For a couple splitting the load, that's manageable.

For three hikers, it's even easier.

But for one person carrying the entire shelter?

That's a different story.


Suppose your shelter system weighs approximately five pounds.

Split among three hikers:

5 lb ÷ 3 = about 1.67 lb per person.

For a group shelter, that's fairly reasonable.

Split between two:

5 lb ÷ 2 = about 2.5 lb per person.

Still manageable for many recreational backpackers.

But if one person carries the entire tent:

5 lb = 5 lb.

That's a serious percentage of a lightweight pack.

This is why the Tungsten 3 makes the most sense when multiple people share the carrying load.


Not always.

But sometimes, absolutely.

A 3P tent makes sense when:

  • Two campers want lots of room.

  • You have a child with you.

  • You bring a dog.

  • You spend long periods inside the shelter.

  • You want more gear space.

  • You're doing basecamp-style trips.

A 2P tent is generally better when:

  • Weight matters more.

  • You hike long distances.

  • You want a smaller packed size.

  • You're traveling with only one partner.

  • You spend little time inside the tent.

The decision comes down to how you use your shelter.


This might actually be one of the best use cases.

For two adults, the Tungsten 3 becomes a comfortable backcountry room.

You can use the extra space for:

  • Gear organization

  • Clothing

  • Camera equipment

  • Electronics

  • Books

  • Children’s equipment

  • Dog gear

  • Extra sleeping pads

And because the tent has two doors, each person can maintain their own entrance and vestibule.

For a weekend trip, the extra weight may be a reasonable trade.

For a week-long trip, you'll need to decide whether that comfort is worth carrying.


The Tungsten 3 can also be useful for a small family.

For example:

Two adults + one child

can make good use of the capacity.

The larger interior can make bedtime routines easier, especially compared with trying to squeeze three people into a compact 2P shelter.

However, don't confuse a 3P backpacking tent with a large family camping tent.

There is still limited interior floor area.

You won't have the same room as a conventional car-camping tent.


For campers who bring a dog, the extra floor area is another advantage.

A dog can occupy surprisingly little space physically but create a lot of logistical problems.

You need room for:

  • Dog bed or sleeping pad

  • Water

  • Leash

  • Food

  • Drying towel

  • Dirty gear

A 3P tent used by two people and a dog can therefore be a practical combination.

Protect the tent floor

Dog claws can damage lightweight tent floors and mesh.

Before a trip:

  • Trim your dog's nails.

  • Use a dedicated sleeping mat.

  • Keep the dog from digging.

  • Inspect the floor after the trip.

The best tent for a dog isn't necessarily the lightest one.

It's often the shelter that gives you enough room to manage both humans and animals without creating unnecessary friction.


One advantage of accepting additional weight is that you can often use more conventional materials and construction.

That can make the tent more forgiving for recreational users.

Still, no tent is indestructible.

Avoid:

  • Dragging the tent over rocks

  • Pitching on sharp objects

  • Packing it away soaking wet

  • Forcing pole sections together

  • Over-tensioning the fly

  • Storing food inside the sleeping area

Take care of the poles

Aluminum poles are strong but can still bend or crack under abuse.

When assembling them:

Let the shock-corded sections slide together naturally.

Don't whip them together or force a misaligned connection.

When taking them down, start from the middle rather than repeatedly stressing the same end section.


After every trip:

  1. Shake out dirt.

  2. Inspect the floor.

  3. Check mesh panels.

  4. Inspect pole sections.

  5. Examine rainfly attachment points.

  6. Dry everything completely.

  7. Pack loosely for long-term storage.

The last step is particularly important.

Never store a wet tent.

Moisture trapped inside a dark storage environment can lead to mildew, odors, and material degradation.


Three people can quickly make a tent messy.

The solution is simple:

Create zones.

Sleeping zone

Keep:

  • Sleeping bags

  • Sleeping pads

  • Small personal items

inside.

Personal head area

Each person should keep essentials close:

  • Headlamp

  • Glasses

  • Water

  • Phone

  • Small electronics

Vestibule zone

Keep larger or dirtier equipment outside:

  • Shoes

  • Backpack

  • Trekking poles

  • Wet rain gear

This simple organization strategy prevents the tent from becoming a gear-storage disaster.


One of the easiest ways to improve comfort is to separate wet gear from your sleep system.

Wet rain jackets, socks, shoes, and pants release moisture.

If you bring all of that into the sleeping compartment, you're increasing interior humidity.

Instead:

Dry zone = sleeping compartment

Wet/dirty zone = vestibule

This isn't merely about cleanliness.

It can also help reduce condensation.


Don't cook inside the tent.

Even during bad weather.

Cooking inside a tent creates serious risks from:

  • Fire

  • Carbon monoxide

  • Melting synthetic fabrics

  • Hot liquid spills

  • Accidental fuel ignition

Use a protected outdoor cooking location that follows local regulations and Leave No Trace principles.

The vestibule is for gear storage and weather protection—not for turning your tent into a kitchen.


This is where the buying decision becomes clearer.

Feature Tungsten 3 Lightweight 3P Tent
Interior comfort Excellent Good–excellent
Weight Heavy Much lighter
Freestanding Yes Varies
Setup Easy Varies
Headroom Excellent Varies
Gear storage Excellent Varies
Long-distance hiking Fair Excellent
Weekend backpacking Excellent Excellent
Basecamp use Excellent Good
Beginner friendly Excellent Good
Ultralight systems Poor fit Excellent

This table captures the fundamental difference.

The Tungsten 3 is a comfort-oriented backpacking tent.

A lightweight 3P tent is generally a transportation-oriented shelter.

Neither philosophy is inherently better.


The extra weight can be justified when you:

  • Hike relatively moderate daily distances.

  • Share the tent among two or three people.

  • Camp in variable weather.

  • Spend significant time at camp.

  • Prefer more headroom.

  • Dislike cramped shelters.

  • Bring a dog or child.

  • Use your tent as a basecamp.

In these situations, the Tungsten 3's additional weight can actually contribute to a better overall trip.


I'd reconsider the Tungsten 3 if you:

  • Are building a sub-10-pound base weight.

  • Regularly hike 20+ miles per day.

  • Are preparing for a thru-hike.

  • Frequently climb steep terrain.

  • Need the smallest possible packed size.

  • Prefer trekking-pole shelters.

  • Are comfortable sacrificing space for weight.

For these users, a modern lightweight 2P or 3P shelter is probably a better fit.


For a short section of a long trail?

Sure.

For a full thru-hike?

I'd generally choose something lighter.

The reason is cumulative.

An extra pound doesn't feel enormous on day one.

After 500 miles, the calculation changes.

Your backpack weight affects:

  • Energy expenditure

  • Joint loading

  • Climbing efficiency

  • Fatigue

  • Recovery

  • Daily mileage

Research into backpack load carriage consistently shows that heavier loads increase physiological demands. The exact effect varies with terrain, speed, fitness, pack fit, and individual biomechanics, but the basic principle is straightforward:

Every pound matters more when you carry it for hundreds or thousands of miles.

That's why experienced thru-hikers often spend substantial effort reducing shelter weight.


Here's a better way to evaluate a backpacking tent.

Don't simply ask:

"How many pounds does it weigh?"

Ask:

"How much useful living space do I receive for those pounds?"

For the Tungsten 3, you're paying in weight for:

  • More interior volume

  • More headroom

  • Two doors

  • Two vestibules

  • Freestanding convenience

  • A robust conventional structure

  • Comfortable use for two or three people

That doesn't make it ultralight.

It makes it purposeful.


Pros

  • Spacious interior

  • Excellent two-person comfort

  • Genuine three-person capability

  • Two doors

  • Two vestibules

  • Good headroom

  • Freestanding structure

  • Aluminum poles

  • Good three-season weather protection

  • Beginner-friendly setup

  • Useful for extended time at camp

  • Versatile for backpacking and basecamp use

Cons

  • Heavy by modern backpacking standards

  • Large packed size

  • Not ideal for high-mileage trips

  • Too much tent for minimalist backpackers

  • Not designed for serious winter conditions

  • Three adults will still have limited personal space

  • Weight becomes a major issue if one person carries the entire shelter


I'd recommend the Tungsten 3 to:

1. Couples

Especially couples who prefer space over minimum weight.

2. Families

Two adults and one child can make good use of the extra capacity.

3. Weekend Backpackers

The weight penalty is easier to accept on short trips.

4. Beginner Backpackers

The conventional freestanding design is easy to understand and use.

5. Basecamp Campers

The extra interior volume becomes genuinely useful when you're spending hours inside.

6. Dog Owners

The additional space can make camping with a dog considerably easier.


You should probably look at lighter alternatives if you're:

  • A serious ultralight backpacker

  • A thru-hiker

  • A fast-and-light mountaineer

  • A gram-counting gear enthusiast

  • A solo backpacker

  • Someone who hikes extremely long distances every day

The tent isn't underperforming.

You're simply asking it to solve a problem it wasn't designed to solve.


1. Pitch With the Doors Away From Prevailing Wind

This can reduce the amount of wind entering the vestibule area.

2. Stake the Tent Even Though It's Freestanding

Freestanding doesn't mean stake-free.

Proper staking improves stability and fly tension.

3. Use Guylines Before You Need Them

Don't wait for a storm to discover where the guyline points are.

4. Ventilate Early

Don't wait until condensation is covering the fly.

5. Keep Wet Gear in the Vestibule

Protect your sleeping environment.

6. Don't Pitch Directly Beside Water

Humidity tends to be higher and drainage can become problematic.

7. Look Up Before Choosing a Campsite

Dead branches—sometimes called widowmakers—are a serious hazard.

8. Don't Cook Inside

Synthetic tent materials and combustion do not belong together.

9. Dry the Tent After Every Wet Trip

This protects the fabric and coatings.

10. Divide the Load

When hiking with three people, distribute tent components among the group.

This makes the shelter much more reasonable from a pack-weight perspective.


Yes, if comfort is one of your priorities.

The Marmot Tungsten 3 is not a cutting-edge ultralight shelter.

That's not its purpose.

Instead, it provides a combination of space, headroom, accessibility, gear storage, weather protection, and straightforward setup that many minimalist tents sacrifice in the pursuit of lower weight.

For two people, it can be especially appealing.

For three people, it provides a practical sleeping shelter.

For a couple plus a child or dog, it can become an excellent small backcountry base.

The main question is whether you're willing to carry the additional weight.


Category Rating
Interior space 9.3/10
Livability 9.4/10
Two-person comfort 9.5/10
Three-person capacity 8.5/10
Weather protection 8.7/10
Ventilation 8.5/10
Setup 9/10
Durability 8.8/10
Packability 7/10
Weight 6/10
Value 8.5/10
Overall 8.5/10

The Marmot Tungsten 3 is worth it if you want a comfortable, spacious, easy-to-use three-season shelter and you're willing to accept additional weight.

Its strongest qualities are not found in a laboratory specification.

They're experienced at camp.

You arrive after a long hike.

You take off your shoes.

You sit upright.

You open your side of the tent.

Your backpack goes into the vestibule.

Your wet jacket stays outside.

Your partner has their own door.

And if rain arrives, there is enough room to wait it out without feeling trapped inside a tiny sleeping pod.

That's the Tungsten 3's real strength.

It treats the tent as a place to live, not merely a place to sleep.

If your backpacking style is focused on maximum mileage and minimum base weight, choose something lighter.

But if your philosophy is:

"I want to enjoy the destination as much as the journey,"

the Tungsten 3 makes a compelling case.

The most useful way to think about it is this:

A backpacking tent is a trade between what you carry on the trail and how you live when the trail stops.

The Marmot Tungsten 3 deliberately puts more value on the second half of that equation.


About HillZero

HillZero is a premium outdoor design brand focused on Livable Backpacking Tents. Its philosophy is built around a simple principle: “Carry Less. Live Better.” HillZero believes backpacking is more than moving from one destination to another, and a backpacking tent is more than a lightweight place to sleep. The complete experience includes walking, arriving, resting, organizing gear, staying dry, cooking, observing nature, and spending meaningful time outdoors.

This idea led HillZero to develop its Livable Backpacking design approach, centered on a practical question: “How can a backpacking tent be easier to carry, without making it harder to live in?” Rather than chasing the absolute lowest weight or simply adding material for more space, HillZero looks for a more thoughtful balance between carrying efficiency and real-world livability.

Its design process considers the details that shape everyday backcountry life: space utilization, ventilation, entry and exit, movement, privacy, organization, and comfort during longer stays. Beginning with the Scott 2P, HillZero is turning this philosophy into a dedicated range of Livable Backpacking Tents.

The mission is simple: to make backpacking more livable—helping people keep the freedom and efficiency of lightweight travel while enjoying better, more comfortable time after they reach camp.

HillZero — Livable Backpacking Tents.

Carry Less. Live Better.

Light enough to carry. Livable enough to stay.

Rethinking Backpacking. Beyond the Miles.

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